I suppose the grapes in a vineyard for wine would be edible, right?
Not necessarily. I read an article about famous wines in France where they mention a certain type of grapes which make great wine but are not edible. They are not dangerous, just not nice to eat.
Interesting. Where did I read about kosher vineyards in France? Oh, yes, it was a French Jewish cookbook I took out of the library. The vineyards are run by the rabbis and their students, under the supervision of the vineyard owner.
In fact (sorry if I sound fastidious) but it is the way wine is made and/or supervised that makes it kosher or not, not the grapes themselves.
P.S.:My brother was a winemaker.
But in New York or California or in Israel the vineyard owner himself (or herself?) is Jewish. I think France is unique in how it processes kosher wine. French kosher wine might be the same as the non-kosher, since the owner of the vineyard is the same.
Hmm. I imagine that here in Israel, winemaking - or, rather, handling the grapes themselves - is different from New York or California. After all, Israeli winemakers/vineyard owners are privileged to have the mitzvot of shmitah, trumot u'ma'asrot, neta revai etc...
In France winemaking is supervised by some rabbis who only come at the crucial moment. I seem to remember that it is when the vats are opened so they can check what is added (or not) to the wine.
Ilana-Davita says
That's a nice photo. I wonder whether the grapes are edible or for wine. I think sometimes they are both.
leoraw says
Her photo shows the heat of the Israeli summer.
I suppose the grapes in a vineyard for wine would be edible, right? But they probably make a lot more money from the wine.
Ilana-Davita says
I suppose the grapes in a vineyard for wine would be edible, right?
Not necessarily. I read an article about famous wines in France where they mention a certain type of grapes which make great wine but are not edible. They are not dangerous, just not nice to eat.
leoraw says
Interesting. Where did I read about kosher vineyards in France? Oh, yes, it was a French Jewish cookbook I took out of the library. The vineyards are run by the rabbis and their students, under the supervision of the vineyard owner.
Ilana-Davita says
In fact (sorry if I sound fastidious) but it is the way wine is made and/or supervised that makes it kosher or not, not the grapes themselves.
P.S.:My brother was a winemaker.
leoraw says
But in New York or California or in Israel the vineyard owner himself (or herself?) is Jewish. I think France is unique in how it processes kosher wine. French kosher wine might be the same as the non-kosher, since the owner of the vineyard is the same.
Mrs. S. says
Hmm. I imagine that here in Israel, winemaking - or, rather, handling the grapes themselves - is different from New York or California. After all, Israeli winemakers/vineyard owners are privileged to have the mitzvot of shmitah, trumot u'ma'asrot, neta revai etc...
leoraw says
True, but they do share in common that the vineyards are owned by Jews, which is not true in France.
Batya says
Thanks for the mention. Those red grapes are delicious for eating. Our green grapes were used for wine and eating last year.
Ilana-Davita says
In France winemaking is supervised by some rabbis who only come at the crucial moment. I seem to remember that it is when the vats are opened so they can check what is added (or not) to the wine.
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